The Chicago Bulls have been trying to once again reach championship heights since Michael Jordan departed the franchise in the 1998 offseason after winning six championships in the span of eight years in the Windy City. The closest the Bulls have come to getting anywhere close to those heights in the years since was in the days of Derrick Rose, but the shadow of Jordan still looms large over a franchise that is one of the NBA’s most iconic despite not having really competed for anything in 26 years.

One of the first building blocks for the Bulls in the post-Jordan days was Jamal Crawford, who was drafted by the organization in 2000. Although Jordan was out of the league at that point, he joined the Washington Wizards the next year, and apparently still kept in contact with members of the Bulls, including a younger Crawford, as the former Sixth Man of the Year winner recently recounted playing pick-up with Jordan on multiple occasions in those days.

“The first time people hear about the story of us playing together and we never lost,” said Crawford, per The Pivot Podcast on YouTube. “The first time we actually played against each other, different teams, not one-on-one, and I think our team won. And I saw how mad he was, like he was pissed off and he went and sat in a corner, and he just sat there. Like he reacted as if he had lost a game seven this summer pickup dude almost 40 years old. It’s Michael Jordan. The next day this run starts at 2 o’clock because young players got work out with your team first and then you can go do what you want. Grover’s blowing up my phone, yo where you at, I’m like, ‘bro it’s 1 o’clock.’ ‘MJ’s waiting on you, where you at, we ain’t starting until you get here.’ So we’re about to start early, he waited until I got there, from that moment on we played together and we never lost.”

Crawford also remembered some celebrity guests that he and Jordan played against and in front of.